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New Nanos National Poll - CP, 32%, LP 30%, NDP 20%, GP 10%, BQ 9% (2008-11-19)

• Honestly - i think conservative supporters just don't answer telephone polls as much between elections. This is about what we saw from nic's numbers just bef...
• Good point as well. It just doesn't seem to be entirely accurate.
• Yeah. We COULD just slash health transfers like paul martin did and pretend we solved the problem. But really - is that the best choice?
• What website did you THINK you logged into?!?! :) :)
• Oh i doubt that will be quite accurate. There's a lot the cpc can do to reduce costs and run a small temporary deficit with the expectation of the beginnings...
• Heh - the tories are better ad putting people on lists than they are at taking them off, that's for sure. I've certainly found the tories around when I had...
• oh sure - i was supporting your position to gohabs, a subtle reminder that martin's 'solution' was to simply pass the bill onto someone else and cause great ...
• hehehehe - well in some ways Quebec and the west are very similar. In some ways tho we're very different :)
• It seems pretty likely they'll go into deficit, if not this year than next. They could of course avoid that - but it would mean either raising taxes, or down...
• The convention went well - it's been fairly well received. And harper's dealing with the economy so far is also fairly popular. I think another poster was ...
• Well - maybe not PERFECT in a year :) I think we'll have to wait for the rest of the world to recover a bit before that happens. But without a doubt, we'll...

On the Harper election win (Nanos Sun Column) (2008-11-04)

• Actually - the repeal of the long gun registry is a VERY centrist policy. The repeal of restricted firearms registry wouldn't be but long guns... definitely....
• I tend to agree. You don't correct one big mistake by suggesting we should have 10 little mistakes instead.
• Actually brian mulroney did many things in his first term that were part of his plan to kill the deficit. Some things take more time - free trade for example...
• You also don't have to register your pets unless they are going to be off of your personal property. Take cars for example. We register cars - but you ONLY...
• Well - just a bit of history, we don't use 'fac's any more. The old system had two firearms licenses - a Possession Only License, which allowed you to own ...
• Larryl - the current firearms legislation turns honest people into criminals. Before the CPC brought in the amnesty, it was taking 3 months to process new ...
• Let me tell you a little joke Will, which might shed some light on why people are laughing at you over 'trudeaus legacy'. One morning, trudeau decided to ...
• I'm going to take issue with part of your first statement, the part which suggests that conservatives were more likely to vote. If nik's analysis is right,...
• It gets worse lex - remember that dion had spend all summer - three months - travelling across the country selling the liberal message and the green tax. Non...
• Hooo -kaaaay. Right here we can see what's wrong with the liberal party and their supporters. Roedy - first off if you actually READ dion's plan the numb...
• Agreed for the most part, but i do think he will likely take a crack at the registry again. It has very little public support and many of the opposition live...
• Larryl - nobody'd HEARD about the Green Tax prior to him taking that trip. It's a complete lie on your part to try to suggest it was to 'clear things up' -...
• Well up to a point - it's unlikely the opposition will force an election in the near future, and the CPC needs the continued support of firearms owners. A ra...
• I really have to take serious issue with the idea that if we don't spend money (vs solving problems) then somehow we're a non-progressive society. That is ...
• hehehe - well, while i'm quite pleased to see sask doing well i'm not sure its quite up to global domination yet :) No - not all provinces would pass it. Bu...
• I have heard they've had to lay off 15 people from liberal party headquarters, including 3 senior folk. That's going to have a significant impact. The news...
• Had it just been a liberal loss and not a CPC win, more of the vote would have gone to the NDP. The ndp opposed the Green Tax as much as the CPC did. So if...
• Dion is definitely not helping by staying on. But i doubt it would make much difference. What the liberal party really needed was for the CPC to get a majori...
• Hey Tom, always nice to see you around. I have heard numerous rumours as to why dion stayed, from 'begged to do so to prevent rival factions from gaining a...
• Well, floor crossings are almost inevitable - there's some in almost ALL terms. Can you remember the last HOC where there wasn't one? :) And there are many ...
• Ok - last first and first last. Last - it has become something of a liberal tradition to 'stand by' their viewpoints, and not let truth, common sense or ho...
• This is a double post isn't it? I just replied to that above.
• Yeah - floor crossers have historically been a bit of a mixed bag as a rule. There are people like turner who do badly, but there are success stories too. ...
• The logging industry is slow to get back to work this year - it'll be nov 17 ish before some of the mills start up again. Good to hear that job growth is b...
• Yes - stronger relations will benefit both of them in the long run. And their policies are remarkably similar.
• The big three own a lot of the manufacturing up here tho. If they're stronger, it keeps some of the jobs up here safer. If they collapse, we'll feel it. Un...
• Firearms sports and hunting are already one of the safest sports there is. More people are killed skiing every year. Virtually every other sport has more ser...
• Yeah - you've been singing the blessings of the 'cadman affair' since long before the election. It was going to change people's minds, it was going to save t...
• Deficits are not a bad idea inherently. The devil is in the details. It's not really possible to 'spend your way out of a recession' (as bob rae used to sa...
• Well larryl - i think sometimes when we want to believe something we look for proof that supports it, and perhaps miss proof that suggests something else. ...
• Martin cut health transfers specifically larryl, not just transfers in general. That's what forced harris to cut hospitals, he had no money to do it. Marti...
• Well sure. Canada does have to get rid of some of our more useless internal protectionist thinking and 'set the rigging' of our financial ship for the next 1...
• Well - as i recall (and i'd have to dig up precise figures to be sure) the savings and loan crisis wound up with about 60 - 70 billion in bailouts over its r...
• Yeah - i think they thought that they just had to ask for the money and they'd get it. Doesn't look like it's going to work that way. There was a segment o...

Conservative Victory Propelled by Ontario Voters (2008-10-15)

• I think probably within 3 personally. He may say he'll stay on till the next convention but he'll turn it in. The only way they can 'save' money is for dion ...
• The liberals bled a lot to the ndp and the greens. That's the truth. Jack layton advanced his cause and will be in a good position to build on that next time...
• Yeah, i think it'll take about three days. Either that or he'll force them to have 2 conventions and try to fight it out. The right thing to do for his party...
• Well - i've never heard hedy called a clap-trap before, but now that you mention it..
• Worse, every dollar they do raise is a dollar the federal party didn't get that year. That will really bite into their already inadequate fundraising efforts...
• He could, i supposed. That would certainly be 'payback' for any of those whom he feels didn't fully support him. He may want to leave iggy or rae a little 'g...
• We've already got the strongest economy in the G8 thanks to harper. And the people support the CPC, both in votes and in donations. The people know dion woul...
• Thank you. To whom are you offering your congratulations tho? It would seem to me like the bloc, the ndp and the cpc all might qualify. Unless you just mean ...
• That's true to a degree - but i also know it was the liberals who got us into that mess in the first place. As a point of history, mulroney didn't actually a...
• Sometimes you get lucky :) But that's where the numbers were pointing.
• So - i guess NONE of the pollsters nailed it this time. Looking at strategic, ekos and nanos, they were all reporting very similar numbers. But in this cas...
• lex writes: "I read somewhere (though I dont have a credible citation) that they borrowed $9 million for this campaign." Here's a clip from the news in jul...
• ROFL - my me my - are you STILL angry i got the numbers right and you were WAAAAY off? :) Do the math - it wasn't just liberal voters staying home. They wen...
• Ahh your usual intelligent thinking :) LOL wow - you're ALMOST as smart as dion's advisers :)
• Ohhh i get lucky pretty darn regular :) With a little intelligence and rational thought you can make your own luck more often than not. You on the other h...
• ROFLMAO - I made only one prediction. I showed some seat forcasts based on the numbers of the day a couple of times but that's different. You might as well b...
• Well of course. THe numbers show quite clearly that it wasn't just that the libs 'stayed home'. Obviously many did, but the libs bled to the ndp and the gree...
• Yeah, and newfoundland confunded the pundits and went solid red, while it was expected the cpc would take at least one seat. But the question here is - how...
• His 'timebomb' would be not to resign until the leadership review. That would hurt the libs. What he SHOULD do for the good of the party is announce his re...
• True enough that newfoundland was a surprise to most, and you did call that one. I thought for sure they'd get one seat there.
• Well - your premise assumes there's one group firmly in control and moving forward. I think their problem right now is that there's so many fractures and a l...
• Well we'll see - i imagine folks are talking to him a lot and will over the weekend, but if he hasn't stepped down by monday or so it will start to get prett...
• Oh shut up :) (heh jk! :) ) Really - before we can even get there we need to debate what's going to happen to the liberal leadership (dion stay on or go? If...
• Not a sad day at all. EVERYONE voted - they either chose to mark a name on a ballot or they chose to abstain and leave the decision to others. If you're st...
• I don't know. I don't really think he was 'set up'. I think he's just actually not much of a leader. Management by 'committee' is never a good idea and he s...
• Well your guesses would have been very accurate i think going strictly by the last numbers we saw from most of the pollsters. You weren't far off of ekos's p...
• Well it's hard to argue with you about the 'safe seats' seeing as they lost 'em all :) I suspect that while harper won't go out of his way to harm newfoundl...
• True. If you don't take the time to vote, if you choose to leave it up to others, you really don't have much right to complain about their choice.
• i don't think that the ndp will look to replace layton - i don't think he's a terribly great campaigner and i don't think he can take 'em much farther but th...
• Well it looks like he's going to resign on Monday. I would GUESS he'll stay on till may as the interim leader. Resign but make it effective in may. But who k...
• I agree to be honest - i think jack's style of podium pounding hellfire and brimstone speeches have moved them about as far forward as they can, they turn of...
• Looks like he'll announce it monday and boy is he sure being pounded in the press. They're saying he acted like a 'lone wolf', ignored advisers, etc. Nasty...
• It matters a great deal to the party, and they are the ones pushing the media. It's a matter of millions of dollars they don't have. If they have to have a...
• Informed writes: "I have been hearing rumors May might resign from Greens to run for the Liberal Party" I have to ask... would we really notice a differenc...
• I don't know how much the electorate has to shift - i think the ndp has to simply present itself in a much different light. As i said - the pulpit pounding "...
• We're not going to get 12 liberal defectors. We might see 2 or 3, but that's it. We might take dosanj's seat away from him in the recount, and both indy's wo...
• Rae has serious baggage in ontario. Very serious. And he can forget the west. But he might be able to do something in quebec. I think he'll win the conve...
• Yes, if they are seen as good governers they will likely get a majority. But really it's quebec that's got to crack, not ontario. The cpc will have to work...
• Oh there are strong liberals out there. But it'll be between rae and iggy and possibly frank. Rae will likely win. He's been working on this since he got i...
• heh - well that's true. And more true now than ever, with their support pretty much concentrated there.
• It's not bad at all. First off - the bloc speaks for quebec more than anyone does. And second, the ndp is in parliament too and they got a decent number of s...
• Quebecer's can and will change their minds. We don't need to sweep quebec. Look at richmond out this way - we took that away from the libs and they won by a ...
• Gohabs - it is you who are out to lunch. If anything, it's more true that when times are tough people turn to the tories. We're the only ones who can clean...
• Actually - if you want to see bigots, look at the liberal party. I believe dion actually called alberta a 'cash cow' he wanted to milk. Nice. Or how about tr...
• Yeah - and probably programs that were wasting money in the first place. Plus - we won't likely see the same kind of brutal downloading of costs to the pro...
• Well... SORT of. But the fact is that the ndp always loses - it's not like they've ever won. If they had a full leadership review after every election it wou...
• Well i don't know how 'middle ground' the libs are these days either for that matter. :) Dion's spending and tax program was larger than the ndp's for heaven...
• Ahh - no he didn't. I'm afraid you're the liar. What he said was he couldn't guarantee future budgets wouldn't include a deficit till we see how deep this ...
• hehehe :) wow. Well - makes about as much sense as anything else you say. We'll see if you're right or still batting zero tomorrow :)
• When were we ever really a 'country' in the sense of one big homogenized group? And only ontario looks at decentralization as being somehow 'against' canad...
• LOL - liberals always have an excuse when they do bad ;) It was adscam last time. The 'truth' is that the libs just have nothing to offer. There's really n...
• Ha! Nonsense - there was nothing 'regional' about meech, it simply attempted to get quebec to buy into a Central gov't by giving it various extra perks and b...
• Lost votes - but gained seats :) Frankly i'll take that trade :) Everyone lost seats because voter turn out was low (except the greens, who really didn't...
• Well said.
• heh! That coallition would scare the bejeezuz out of MOST canadians i think :D My final seat projection was done when nik posted his final numbers, Well b...
• Frankly, all very good advice. But i doubt the libs are listening - like dion they're far to arrogant to see the truth of the matter just yet. You'll have to...
• ahh - but then how would he pay his leadership debts? :) They're saying the party is offering to do that for him at the moment if he steps down :) They're ...
• Well - canadian politicians have it a little easier - most gun owners support SOME gun control based on sensible and practical results. For example, most bel...
• Well - bribery in a larger sense of the term perhaps - or extortion depending on your point of view :) But not really from a 'legal' point of view and as yo...
• ooooo :) good point, they're kind of setting precedent. I wonder how the folks who paid their own bills feel about this.
• Hooooo - did NOT see the iggy defection angle coming :) heh. But now that you mention it, its not outside the realms of possibility. Iggy's always been a lot...
• Well the budget will be out before the may convention - it's usually given in march or april at the latest. I expect they'll let dion play 'fall guy' one las...
• Your last line says it all. What they need and what they want are radically different. They don't just NEED a fundraiser - they need to reconnect with thei...
• Well - that of course is why we're not seeing any really big names come to the table. All the potential leaders either have tonnes of baggage or ounces of ex...
• ROFLMAO :) No we don't - we remember because we were the ones who did it when the party needed it :) Now we're laughing watching the libs come apart at th...
• Larryl - you're assuming the undecided didn't go out to vote. Frankly - the evidence is they did in the last day or two, thus explaining a rather sudden jump...
• it's called democracy. The greens never elected anyone and still are perfectly valid to be on the ballot for an election. Democracy means you don't get to ...
• I don't really care what you recall. The PEOPLE are democratic, not the gov't. If the gov't isn't doing it's job - the PEOPLE kick them out. WE run democracy...
• "What do you think they will use?" My guess is " The red bank of canada'. That's about the only way they'll trick people into giving them any money. :)
• Sometimes you have to get torn down to get rebuilt. The libs haven't figured that out. I suspect they have further to fall before they really sit down and th...
• Is this some sort of comprehension problem for you? Democracy means the PEOPLE get to choose - democracy is NOT taking away peoples choices because you don't...
• Liberals may or may not know anything of democracy - but YOU should! I will say this very slowly for you. I believe the liberal party has essentially betra...
• It had little to do with the population of the west being low. It had more to do with the split on the right between the reform/alliance in the west and the ...
• I was very happy and surprised to see the butt-whupping that Mrs Wong gave Mr chan :) I figured she'd win - but i thought it would be close. And of course ...
• Mr Gohabs has been frothing in his pea soup since the election was called :)
• His 'baggage' is a reality check? Hmm - are you sure you understand what those words mean? :) Regardless he's got a point. The libs ARE short of talent that...
• I have no idea who he is. He changes his name here pretty consistantly. But one thing's always true - he's always pissed :)
• I don't think dosanj would run for leader - but he does support rae. And that's not a combination i'd like to see in cabinet. I hope he loses.
• Well we'll find out about dosanj today - i surely would love to see him get the boot. Plus - if he does then my original election prediction of 144 for the c...
• Well they're both ndp retreds, so safe bet the party would move even further to the left. And both are not competent as financial managers, so not really the...
• Well - i'm thinking 'go habs' might be a bit of a givaway :) Clearly, he's not from calgary.
• My money'd be on the gnat.
• Heartburn? Heh - dude, if anything we're just getting sore stomachs from all the laughing :)
• Yep - judge refused to recount all the ballots. He dropped to 22 votes tho :) So - last time he won by 8000 - this time he won by 22. Yeah - THAT isn't a ...
• No - they held on to one they had by the skin of their teeth :) He dropped 8000 votes from last time - the liberals are pretty much done. I told you what...
• Larryl - you have been dishoneset on this site and gohabs has been VERY dishonest. If you made intelligent, honest posts, people would be more interested in ...
• You don't like "lyin brian" - yet you yourself are less than honest here. And you support a party that's famous for it's lying. But you have no comment abo...
• There's nothing 'sad' about the thought of not sharing a country with the likes of you two. But if anything, the liberals brought us closer to breaking up ...
• Well then you think wrong - there's been far more official corruption by the libs. For example - which party used millions of taxpayers money to illegally fu...
• Liberals are liars bud. And you are a liberal. And i understand your childish and uneducated ramblings just fine. It's like reading a dr Seuss book after g...
• ROFL - more liberal lying from our resident liberal 'insider' :D BTW larryl - the bloc is left wing - so there's a party who 'spews' more seperatist crap th...
• Larryl - have you ever wondered why you have such an aversion to hearing the truth? Do you even KNOW what confederation means? You sure don't seem to. We...
• I'm well aware that lying doesn't bother you. It doesn't bother most liberals. You have said you're a die hard liberal. You 'pretend' and 'play' otherwise,...
• ROFL - ohhh dear, are you still trying to defend your buddy and the sad sorry liberal party? How many seats do the cpc have? Is it more than the 88 you sai...
• The party has been found guilty of taking money illegally, and knowlingly doing so. What money they could prove had to be paid back. When was the cpc or an...
• The PC party sure did die after their 'drubbing'. And the libs are going to die just as surely. The libs are corrupt and are liars, and canada is getting s...
• No larryl - it's not my job to go back and repost all your comments. I'm not playing that game with you - it's way too late for you to backpedal now. You mad...
• Oh? The party didn't have to pay back the money? Once again you lie like a cheap rug. http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.canada/2005-...
• No - to be 'liberal lite' they'd have had to also steal cash from taxpayers.
• Ahhh.... no. That's not how it works :) Democracy does cost money unfortunately :) Hey - Harper gave each opposition leader a chance - the election could ...
• Well - to be fair they're not worried about the parliament on the prisoner voting bill, they're worried because it would require a constitutional change and ...
• True. The libs are living on wishful thinking these days. And the idea that this economic downturn was 'not necessary' is of course the usual nonsense and ...
• mckenna isn't an idiot. I suspect manley will back off too.
• Interesting article today - "By GREG WESTON Debt, donation rules make life tough for wannabe Liberal leaders When the newly re-elected Conservative govern...
• Apperently harper will be changing the laws as well regarding loans. That will make fund raising much harder for the liberal leadership candidates. I think t...
• Well larryl - your first question was adeptly answered by HC of course. It USED to be you could spend any old amount of your own money, but those days are go...
• I think manley will likely bow out. The proposed legislation harper is apperently going to introduce is the final straw. It is sad that the liberal party m...
• Manley has no real infrastructure to raise money on his own 100 dollars at a time - he would have HAD to take out a loan and hope he could pay it back. If th...
• I don't think there's any rule preventing the libs from paying for their candidate's campaign - certanly if there is it would be an internal party rule in th...
• hehehe - wouldn't that be a kick in the teeth for the libs :) But he's more likely to go to the ndp than the CPC.
• But - in such a case it would be the candidate's money. He'd still be capped at putting in only so much for his own campaign.
• No, i don't think they could dissolve a lawful party in canada over the actions of some of it's officers. You can't dissolve a corporation for example just b...
• Sure, for the loan. But then when they went to donate to the actual official campaign it becomes a party donation. If i've got a million dollars, it doesn'...
• hehehehe - slytherins, well that's accurate enough :) As much as it would kill the libs to poach him - i just don't know if it would do the cpc much good. ...
• ohhh i don't think harper will go scalp hunting. I think he's being more subtle and the fact is there's always another election. I think nfldrs are really th...
• Well i commented on this after the election. The libs were not making enough money from all sources to pay the bills last year, and now they've taken a 1.6 m...

CPAC-Nanos Election Tracking CP 34.2, LP 26.7, NDP 21.4, BQ 9.5, GP 8.2 (ending October 12) (2008-10-13)

• They tend to go with momentum, not so much the probable winner, although often the two are the same. For example, in 2004 in the last two days support for ...
• A majority is really what our country needed. But it's unlikely to happen. It IS possible that harper will win a very strong minority, i've been saying 144...
• I read an interesting report a ways back. It said quite simply that we're idiots for arguing over climate change the way we have - in essence the argument wa...
• I would tend to go back to something close to one of my earlier predictions. CPC 144, lpc 72, ndp 35 bloc 55. Although it may be possible that i'm low on t...
• That is a very good question, and it will depend on one factor to a large degree - will it take two or three parties to bring the gov't down? Depending on ...
• Still need money to fight a campaign, and that's something the libs are going to be short of for a while.
• Yeah, harper's been back on his game the last little bit. I suspect it'll still have some effect tho. People will read the papers in the morning and watch th...
• ROFL Gohabs :) weren't you saying 80 seats the other day? And i said 144 - repeatedly. And i'm thinking I'm not going to be off by much. But - as most liber...
• Well for the last two perhaps, but not always. I think the cpc was sort of 'artificially deflated' with some of those comments. I think that people were ma...
• Someone would likely form a coalition at that point.
• Well it was a hypothetical 'tie' - i don't think that's very likely at all :) I think the cpc is going to surprise dion and i don't think it's going to be a...
• They may be the liberals - but fewer people will blindly vote for them. A lot of people vote liberal because they've "always" voted liberal or because "Dad d...
• I don't think it was the drop in seats that 'broke the connection' for the pc - it was the appearance of viable alternatives. The bloc in quebec, the reform ...
• Yeah, they're kind of fringe, but they're growing into a more mainstream fringe :) If they land 8 percent of the vote or whatever, then realistically while...
• Well i think some gov't funding is somewhat appropriate. I don't really like the idea of political parties focusing on fundraising exclusively, it somehow 'c...
• Suedo - we know the truth. The campaign is over. There's no more point your insistence in not telling the truth.
• I don't think he's going to be very wary. The libs suffered a horrible defeat tonite, both in seats but more importantly financially. They won't be looking f...
• Well I called it fairly close. I said CPC - 144 Libs - 76 NDP - 38 Bloc - 50 I feel pretty good about how close i came. To those liberals who said t...
• Hahaha - 143 seats bud :) I missed by one :) Sorry buddy, but your party is a loser and the leader is a loser, and will likely be gone shortly. We were righ...
• Went quiet :) - i was posting every single day :) Told you I was going to be right, I told you what the numbers were going to be, and i was pretty damn clo...

CPAC-Nanos Daily Election Tracking CP 33, LP 27, NDP 22, BQ 10, GP 9 (ending October 11) (2008-10-12)

• The numbers aren't great for the cpc, but it's clear from the polls they're trending upwards. The ndp seems to be strong as well. And that gives harper the...
• Tuesday bud :) it's thanksgiving monday. I know that's probably what you meant, but just a reminder.
• It would make more sense for the libs and green to get behind the NDP. The ndp has the momentum and a more effective campaign - and lets face it, dion didn't...
• I think it'll take more than a couple of years - they weren't paying the bills going into this, they're now servicing about an 8 million dollar loan they too...
• They are within 5 points of the libs bud - they're no 'protest party'. That may have been true in the past but it's certainly not true now. I don't agree wit...
• I think that you're probably right. People dont' see the point in voting lib any more. If you're a leftie - might as well actually vote for a left party. If ...
• There hasn't been much interest in strategic voting. First off - most people dont' even know who's winning and who isn't in their riding, so that makes it ha...
• Age is asked. Yes, they COULD lie, but i doubt many would. It seems unlikely there's a horde of 15 year olds out there desperate to lie their way into a poli...
• well if it were just one poll that'd tend to be true. Or if just the libs had lost one or the cpc had gained one. But with all the polls suggesting a cpc r...
• Most aren't really participating, they're signing up to look at what's happening. And of those - how many are on both facebooks, how many are conservative su...
• Hits mean nothing - any tech will tell you that. Visits mean little either, just more than hits. If i visit the site 10 times that doesn't mean they have a...
• I forgot about that - put me down for 36 percent cpc, 27 percent libs 21 percent ndp, 10 percent bloc, and the rest to 'other like the green and other fringe...
• Well... our navy has boats. THEIR navy has boats. And they had boats before OUR navy did. And harper wanted to buy NEW boats. So, i guess that proves conclus...
• In fairness - i think layton has been pretty true to his platform. He's held the same position from beginning to end. I think it's a pretty terrible position...
• You know - i think you actually get MORE rabidly insane in direct proportion to how badly your party is doing - i think we could just about call the election...
• I thought you were sure the tories would get down to 80 seats? :) :) hehehe BC is VERY strong for the CPC, and the libs are going to lose almost all of thei...
• Sure. And they would have, but harper screwed up . ANd they are likely to be a lot closer to a majority than they were last time - i'm still thinking 144 s...
• Hard to say about the bloc and ndp. The cpc could well actually get more new seats than they do. But - considering that any gain for the ndp is very positive...
• There aren't hundreds of thousands who will contribute. There are barely thousands, and they're giving closer to 200 bucks a peice, not 1000. The liberals ...
• LOL - and gohabs the liberal liar has spoken once more :) I've said 144 seats, and i correct you every time. I think the problem is you're afraid they might...

CPAC-Nanos Daily Election Tracking CP 33, LP 27, NDP 22, BQ 10, GP 8 (ending October 9) (2008-10-10)

• Interestingly, polling data suggests cpc and ndp voters are the two most likely to vote. Could be worse for the libs and better for the ndp/cpc than expected.
• Yeah. The libs peaked and are backsliding. Interestingly, ekos tracks the loss in the west to ALBERTA and manitoba of all places. Manitoba makes sense -the s...
• Other polls are reflecting similar drops in lib support in ontario. I think dion has peaked and is beginning to slide.
• There's a lot of reason for ndp supporters to be happy this election, that's for sure. It looks like no matter what polls you read, at this point there will ...
• There's still 17 percent undecided in nik's polls. Interestingly, the EKOS poll shows a smaller percent undecided - 7 percent undecided and 3 percent who a...
• I don't think i said they won't vote. I think i said they're undecided. 3 percent of the ekos poll folks said they wouldn't vote - the rest probably will (or...
• Yeah - bc's much stronger this time. I have no idea how the teams on the ground are doing in quebec or if they're well organized.
• Pretty much :) And of course in recent years the population of alberta has been greatly increased by other provincial migration, newfs and ontarians etc, wh...
• i agree. thinking the libs are going to win is indeed called wishful thinking.
• Harper will be staying. He's the right man for the right job in the right place. This is exactly the country he's supposed to be in. Dion wants a tax that ...
• The fact is he didn't lie on any levels. He broke one promise. That's not the same. He's actually been the most up front we've had in a long time. Dion has...
• Ok - first off you don't actually take out a mortgage WITH cmhc - you insure your mortgage with them. And that only applies to mortgages where you are putt...
• dude - we know you'd lie about it if they had 1000 volunteers per riding. Don't waste your breath, you haven't been right about anything to date.
• That and the fact that there hasn't been any movement towards it, like a sudden surge towards the libs or anything.
• Actually they're trending up. And the latest strategic poll backs up the ekos poll. The libs are trending down. Dion's shine wore off, and people are looki...
• I think i said 144 :) And we'll know if THAT was accurate on tuesday. But we know you've been wrong several times on things you said. And i haven't lied, ...
• Well of course i have basis for saying that. And in fact it's largely what nik said - i guess you think he's a 'bumpkin' too? I guess you're seeing the shif...
• ROFL - well the vast majority of 'em are predicting the libs will sink lower. :) Sorry about your luck. Now man up a little and quit acting like such a cry...
• Well - not really. The libs have trailed the CPC since day one and continue to do so. While it's possible the libs could surge in the last day, that's lookin...
• Well that's not true. Sometimes i think you just say the most ridiculous thing that pops into your head. If he LOSES the election, there will likely be ser...
• Yeah - because he knows the idea of 'prime minister dion' scares the crap out of people :) The only thing scarier to most than a harper majority is dion in ...
• 'fraid it is :) Harper is moving forward in ontario - all it took there was 4 words ... "finance minister bob rae" :)
• Beats the heck out of rae that's for sure. Flaherty may have served under harris - but bob rae WAS the gov't and destroyed the place. Ontario doesn't want an...
• Do i? Who knows what he'll do. Dion has to be concerned about daggers at his back of course. And of course it's trite and childish to say mulroney 'brought...
• Well you're wrong. Harper is not too right for canada - in fact his 'rightness' has nothing to do with why he didn't take a majority this time. Times chang...
• No, sorry, he's wrong. Someday the so-called 'liberals' (which aren't liberal at all, but actually a party of intolerance) will learn that they don't get t...
• Suuuuure - just like they were with chretien and paul martin right? Don't kid yourself :) Dion will face a leadership challenge regardless. And the 'youn...
• Au contraire. They were completely set to do that till they thought the gov't was cutting arts funding. So - no problems there it would seem. Lets face it ...
• Are you on glue? Martin pushed chretien out the door - it was a bitter battle where chretien had to threaten to BRING HIS OWN GOV"T DOWN at one point to keep...
• Traditionally no - confederation has not worked for bc very well. But we get by. Hasn't done much for alberta or the praries either :) But - like i said. ...
• There's too many to list. But really - we're not like the liberals. We don't 'crow' a prince years before hand. We let people stand on their own merits. An...
• Oh i think probably mackay would likely be a front runner for example. Smart guy, well liked and a lot more 'personable' than harper. Women like him more, an...
• ROFL - that's the liberal spirit! If you don't like what's happening, then a pigheaded unwillingness to look facts in the face will always see you thru :) W...
• I see you've stopped taking your medication again. Mackay never had the job, and the power brokers insisted he make no deal with the alliance. He went AGA...
• No they shouldn't. But they do. Look at williams - bitching for more goodies when he knows the cpc treated newfoundland miles better than anyone has in gen...
• I've got a truck - and i know how much it costs to fill it and how much more it'll be after a new carbon tax. I bet a few people out that way are getting a g...
• I notice you failed to answer my question. Every province has rail. They mostly use diesel too. Can you answer my question - or are you still living in d...
• Really. No boats, no trucks in your province, no tractors or farmers, nothing like that in your province. Hmm. Methinks you're a bit of a fibber. But then ...

CPAC-Nanos Daily Election Tracking CP 33, LP 29, NDP 20, BQ 10, GP 7 (ending October 8) (2008-10-09)

• There's pretty clear indication the CPC slide stopped a couple of days ago - and the libs were left trying to take support from other parties to make up what...
• Yes, ekos is definitely showing more positive action for the cpc than nanos. We'll be seeing a result closer to the 144 seats i originally said if those nu...
• True lex. It is looking that way right now - the bloc will have enough seats to vote with the libs to defeat a motion, and the ndp may not. That would put ...
• It seems like it did register indeed. It stopped the drop in it's tracks, and now they're growing stronger in the west again according to Nanos and most of t...
• You know bc alberta and sask are paying INTO equalization, and bc and alberta together have had something like 6 years of equalization in the last 100? Sur...
• Well that's the question. It seems to have sprouted now that the 'shine' from dion is wearing off. I notice reporters are starting to ask dion detailed quest...
• Sure. So do we. In fact, in case YOU hadn't noticed bc and alberta traditionally pay MORE per capita. So i guess ontario won't be paying anything if they l...
• Less than a week now - 7 days and closing. It's going to be a nail biter :)
• Inter provincial Immigrants from the east i'd expect :) :) :) Plus - realistically it would be wrong to assume the other 50 percent is happy with confeder...
• I offered it as an example of one of the many reasons someone might vote ndp instead of cpc or liberal. As opposed to being happy with confederation or the f...
• So did i apperently - it's actually 5 days and closing :)
• What numbers are YOU reading? Nanos has the libs at 26 percent in the west and the cpc at 50 with a 5.1 margin of error. Ekos has them far ahead as well. N...
• Layton will gain seats - again. His party isn't likely to turf him when election after election he builds their strength. Harper and supporters always knew...
• I said nothing about those provinces. I was responding to Dgood's comment that if the west left confederation we should pay back the transfers. My point was ...
• Well that's just pure nonsense. For well over 100 years westerners have considered the praries and bc to be the west. And as to there being no support, tha...
• Quite true - king asked to disolve parliament and teh GG told him he had to quit instead and offered the opposition the chance to form gov't. King ran in the...
• And thats' a big factor in western alienation. Quebec wants more arts so the west has to pay more in taxes to fund it? Why? If they want it they can pay for ...
• The H&K is not working right with regional numbers. Sorry if it got your hopes up :) It's broken. It only does national accurately. I'm sorry to burst you...
• No, this is my home. I doubt that myself or the 50 percent of westerners who agree with me are intersted in going anywhere. If anything - we'll ask others to...
• I think the kind of help you may need probably requires something a little more 'professional' than what I can offer :) Of course it doesn't need to be a we...
• It doesn't work right on a regional level. :) It's broken. Go read up on it :) Sorry to raise your hopes, but that's the way it is.